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Hi! My name is Elisa Haggarty, I’m a Conscious Leadership Coach and the host of The School of Unlearning. Each episode will feature the most curious and successful people I know, what beliefs they carry with them today and the ones they struggle to unlearn. Come ready to reflect on your core learnings and rethink social constructs so that you shed the life that the world told you to live, and begin living the one meant for you. Welcome, to the School of Unlearning.
Hi! My name is Elisa Haggarty, I’m a Conscious Leadership Coach and the host of The School of Unlearning. Each episode will feature the most curious and successful people I know, what beliefs they carry with them today and the ones they struggle to unlearn. Come ready to reflect on your core learnings and rethink social constructs so that you shed the life that the world told you to live, and begin living the one meant for you. Welcome, to the School of Unlearning.
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Friday Mar 20, 2026
EP 65: Jim Dethmer on The Art of Coaching
Friday Mar 20, 2026
Friday Mar 20, 2026
For the second episode in this series on The Art of Coaching, we sit down with Jim Dethmer, the co-founder and author of The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership. Jim brings decades of experience as a masterful coach, coaching over 150 CEO’s, a speaker and thought leader in this field. Jim lives in Chicago with his wife Debbie, and in Michigan, their soul’s home, when they’re recharging during the summer months. You can learn more about Jim Dethmer and The Conscious Leadership Group at www.conscious.is
In this epsiode, Jim explores his origin story, the influences, both in life and in mentorship and how they shaped his first 40 years. This is a powerful episode, exploring the role of acceptance, the hero’s journey, the stages of development for a coach and how we must all move through our wound in order to heal and develop into the person we are longing to become. We explore the role of the socialized self and how it shows up in life and in coaching, and
In this episode, we explore:
- Jim’s origin story
- Jim discusses his early pursuit of a relationship with Jesus within evangelical Christianity, which provided initial peace and a sense of connection.
- Jim highlights the influence of Gay and Katie Hendricks, who taught him how to have deep, transformative relationships, impacting his marriage and other relationships.
- He also mentions Hale Dwaskin and the Sedona Method, which helped him understand the concept of no problems and no self, leading to a profound sense of peace.
- Elisa and Jim discuss the importance of acceptance in CLG's work, emphasizing the need to see oneself clearly, including the good, beautiful, dark, and messy parts.
- Jim explains that awareness must be met with acceptance to avoid re-traumatization and to foster a ruthless compassion for the next piece to emerge.
- He describes the journey of waking up and becoming liberated, which involves removing blinders and seeing oneself more clearly.
- Jim emphasizes the role of coaches in embodying acceptance and creating a safe space for clients to explore their own messy, crazy things.
- Jim shares the devotional practices that still light him up.
- Jim explores how nearly anything done with awareness can be a soiritual practice of connection and waking up.
- Jim explains the four states of consciousness in coaching: me, by me, through me, and as me, each representing a deeper level of presence and transformation.
- He emphasizes the importance of coaches cultivating their own beingness to create a transformational field for clients.
- Jim highlights the role of coaches in being the vibration of acceptance and compassion, which allows clients to feel safe and open to transformation.
- Elisa and Jim discuss the significance of body awareness in coaching, as the body is the first line of awareness in the world.
- Jim emphasizes the importance of coaches being aware of their own body signals to stay present and compassionate in their work.
- Jim expresses a desire for ultimate liberation and freedom, acknowledging that he is always seeking something more. There is a call from Jim for more compassion in the world.
If you are a leader, business owner, entrepreneur looking to deepen your leadership capacity, step into embodied leadership for the sake of what is most important to you - schedule time with me at www.elisamaryhaggarty.com
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