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Hi! My name is Elisa Haggarty, I’m a Conscious Leadership Coach and the host of The School of Unlearning. Each episode will feature the most curious and successful people I know, what beliefs they carry with them today and the ones they struggle to unlearn. Come ready to reflect on your core learnings and rethink social constructs so that you shed the life that the world told you to live, and begin living the one meant for you. Welcome, to the School of Unlearning.
Episodes
Tuesday Nov 29, 2022
Tuesday Nov 29, 2022
Monday Nov 21, 2022
Monday Nov 21, 2022
This episode is for anyone who is feeling a sense of unrest or dissatisfaction with their life and who wants to find more joy and meaning. Amy helps us break down why we desire what we desire, what actually drives us to pursue our goals and what key questions we can ask along the way to make sure we are living on purpose. A favorite part about our today was the nuance that Amy’s work brings to self help and self development. That our greatest learnings and times of growth come when we contract and rumble with hard things - and how we can use that data to better direct our next steps. Amy helps us understand why “should” is a word that potentially carries a lot of heavy energy, riddled with guilt and tension. This episode is HIGH energy, riddled with insights and really really human.
In this episode, you will learn:
- Amy's early influences that inspired her into the realm of consciousness and spirituality
- How Amy defines "living on purpose"
- The pivotal moments that helped Amy move towards being a spiritual being having a human experience
- How the constant need to control our conditions leads to "efforting" which can be draining and lead to burnout
- How to reframe goals, that milestones can be helpful but the feeling of what we believe we want is always most important
- Amy encourages us to "think as far as it feels good" and then come back to the moment.
- What it means to embrace Amy's mantra of "feel it out, don't figure it out!"
- Amy recommends us to "map our desired feeling state"
- Amy encourages to strengthen our body/mind awareness - even the states of constriction as it provides great data for what we want and don't want.
- "Accept it all" The more we can learn into contraction, the more we can sit with it and also use this state to learn and grow.
- What Amy feels is one of the worst/most dramatic words is!
- Inner critic? Learn how to make friends with the constant force of opposition with Amy's approach.
- How Amy defines unlearning :)
Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work. Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast.
Tuesday Aug 09, 2022
Tuesday Aug 09, 2022
The need for corporate leaders to up level their mindset and approach to work is more relevant and needed than ever. For episode 35 on The School of Unlearning, I sit down with Integrative Leadership Coach, Erica Zygelman. Erica has a holistic approach that challenges all leaders to come more fully into alignment, check their integrity and lead from the heart. This episode is a great resource for anyone looking to debunk leadership myths, lean into their growth edge and feel empowered to own how they show up at work more fully.
In this episode, you will learn:
- What having a brand at work means
- Why first time managers and senior leaders need to know their “why” so they can lead more consciously
- What key influences helped shape Erica’s life and career
- What first Erica up about the corporate world
- The power of agency in one’s career growth
- What key assumptions leaders make that make their work more stressful
- What being an integrative leader means
- What advice erica has for first time leaders and leaders wanting to wake up to their potential
Erica’s bio
As an Integrative Leadership Coach, Erica is committed to supporting the next generation of leaders to achieve sustainable success by integrating principles of conscious leadership and holistic wellness. Through this method, she works to equip professionals with tools that shift the paradigm of success from what it looks like on the outside, to how it feels on the inside.
Erica has a 15-year track record of leading high-performing corporate managers and teams to build flourishing relationships, scale revenue, and deliver excellent outcomes for world-class organizations. She is passionate about functional medicine, personal development, yoga & mindfulness, and is inspired by international travel, live music, and nature. After a decade and a half in New York City, she currently enjoys exploring her new hometown of sunny San Diego.
Erica can be reached at www.ericazygelman.com and follow her on Instagram @ericazygleman
To learn more about Elisa Haggarty, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com and follow The School of Unlearning @thesoulpodcsat on Instagram.
Thursday Jul 21, 2022
Thursday Jul 21, 2022
Today I sit down with behavioral economist, professor and author, Linda Babcock to discuss the power of saying no for women at work.
This podcast interview is for any woman in the workplace who feels stretched thin, frustrated by a lack of advancement in their career and afraid to say no. If you are an organizational leader, this podcast will help you understand how to strategically use your greatest resource by shifting how you allocate and reward non-promotical tasks.
We discuss what an NPT or non-promotable task is, and why women are 50% more likely to volunteer for work that doesn’t advance their career. Linda and her co-authors propose tactical and strategic ways we can empower women in all positions to advocate for their needs by doing an inventory of how they spend their time, understanding the currency their company thrives on and embracing strategies to make sure they spend their time doing work that aligns with their skills and also helps advance their role in the workplace.
Linda’s work is focused on understanding barriers to women’s advancement in the workplace and developing evidence-based interventions to promote a level playing field. She is the founder and director of the Program for Research and Outreach on Gender Equity in Society (PROGRESS), which pursues positive social change for women and girls through education, partnerships, and research.
Linda is the James M. Walton Professor in Economics at Carnegie Mellon University and the author of Ask for It: How Women Can Use the Power of Negotiation to Get What They Really Want and Women Don’t Ask: Negotiation and the Gender Divide.
“The No Club: Putting a Stop to Women’s Dead End Work” is available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble and wherever books are sold. To learn more, visit https://www.thenoclub.com
In this episode, you will learn:
- What impacts the bottom line is business is how we spend out time
- Why companies would benefit from developing their people and the core soft skills
- What a non-promotable task (NPT) is and how it drains a woman’s capacity to advance her career
- Helpful tactics to understand how to say no, or even say “yes, and…”
- The power of the pause before making decisions
- How not staying in our zone of genius or even competencies is an energy drain for the employee and the organization
- 70% of companies believe that DEI initiatives are critical to business success but only 24% of companies formally recognized DEI initiatives as promotable
- How female leaders can become more aware and strategic about how they handle personal decisions
- How leaders can begin to pay attention to what a “Yes” feels like and how that is the foundation for being more responsible with human resources and time.
- How understanding non-promotable tasks and doing an inventory of how we spend out time is very visible and further supports our capacity to direct career advancement.
- How real change happens when organizations shift how they allocate and reward work
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Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. She coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset so they can build high performing teams, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com
Wednesday Jun 29, 2022
Wednesday Jun 29, 2022
For episode 33 on The School of Unlearning, I sit down with award winning researcher and author of 6 books, Donna Jackson Nakazawa. Donna's work in science journalism was influenced by early life experiences and losses. Donna's most recent work is all about raising awareness about the growing mental health crisis that our young girls are experiencing. Donna uses science, empathy and a felt sense for human suffering to translate stories into movements that spark change. This episode is for every parent, even aunt, every teacher and every coach who is raising a young women and wants to help support their mental health journey.
In this episode, we discuss:
- Donna's early childhood influences and how they shaped a sense of trust and safety about the world around her
- How to tell is the nervous system is regulated or dis-regulated
- How stress switches on genes that dis-regulates the nervous system
- What motivates and drives Donna to be a writer and a speaker.
- How we can rewrite internal narratives to work through trauma
- How confidence is a backbone for healing trauma, to be able to sit with emotions and narratives and learn to rewrite them.
- The power of narrative writing, which combines the past, present and future in a way that can heal.
- Science is showing that in the fact of unpredictable chronic stress, things happen immunologically and hormonally in the female body that set the stage for depression that don't happen for males.
- Doubling and tripling rates of female mental health disorders which are unprecedented.
- The rate of female teen suicide went up 50% over the last decade.
- 36% of girls report having a major depressive episode before the age of 17.
"Girls on the Brink: Helping Our Daughters Thrive in an Era of Increased Anxiety, Depression, and Social Media" is available for pre-order on Amazon, on Barnes & Noble. This book will be released on September 13th.
About Donna:
Donna Jackson Nakazawa is an award-winning science journalist, author of seven books, and an internationally-recognized speaker whose work explores the intersection of neuroscience, immunology, and human emotion. Her mission is to explore the science of the mind-body connection and harness it for healing. Her upcoming book, Girls on the Brink: Helping Our Daughters Thrive in an Era of Increased Anxiety, Depression, and Social Media (Random House/Harmony 2022) is available for pre-order now and will be available wherever books are sold this summer). In this book, Donna explores today’s growing adolescent female mental health crisis. Anyone on the front lines of caring for girls today—parents, educators, counselors—knows that girls are more prone to depression and anxiety than ever before. Now we have the science to understand why. During the critical neurodevelopmental window of adolescence a confluence of modern toxic stressors are altering the female stress-immune response in ways that can derail female thriving. Drawing on insights from both the latest science and interviews with girls, Donna guides readers through 15 “antidote” strategies to help teenage girls flourish even in the face of stress, creating a new playbook for how we—parents, families, and the human tribe—can ensure a healthy emotional inner life for all of our girls.
About Elisa Haggarty:
I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset so they can build high performing teams, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com
Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram.
Wednesday Jun 22, 2022
Wednesday Jun 22, 2022
For episode 32 on The School of Unlearning podcast, I speak with connection coach and author, Kat Vellos. In a world where friendship and community feel transient and so different from how any of us imagined our worlds to be, Kat Vellos helps us break open human connection with a refreshing approach and perspective on how we can forge and maintain friendships - even as they shift and change. In this episode, we cover how Kat came about the work of researching human connection, what she is actively unlearning and how we can more intentionally build communities and friendships that help us move through life. If there ever was a time where we all needed a reframe human connection and practical tools on how to intentionally build community, this would be it.
On this episode, we cover:
- Who influenced Kat as a young adult
- How activism and social justice came to be a big part of Kat’s early moments of unlearning
- Unlearning productivity is top of mind for Kat and learning the freedom to explore the question of, “when is enough enough?”
- What role that leisure and pleasure have to do with productivity
- Sufficiency as a concept relating to abundance
- What successful friendship and community looks and feels like for Kat
- The ability to know the need for connection and reach out for it without hesitation
- The gift of reaching out and inviting a friend out
- How we can build muscles for connection
- What role generosity plays in making connections and friendships
- How the pandemic impacted human relationships and friendships
- Social stamina and how its impacted our ability to connect
- What would be nourishing, rejuvenating and connecting with the time and space we have in our lives?
- Why anger is a normal response to disconnection and what our emotions can teach us
- Tips and tools on how to foster adult friendships
- Bringing intention to the ways we create invitations
- How Forging adult friendships requires creativity
- How "hyper mobility" impacts our sense of community
- "If you knew you were going to I've at your current address for the rest of your life, what would you do differently to foster friendship and community?"
- The role compassion plays in forging relationships in a hyper mobile world.
- Advice on how to not take things personally if friend hangouts don't materialize
References:
Kat mentions the work/writing or Naomi Klein
Devin Price “Laziness doesn’t exist”
Lynn Twist’s book, “The Soul of Money”
The Podcast, "Hurry Slowly", by Jocelyn K. Glei
Susan David, "Emotional Agility"
Kat Vellos is a connection coach and trusted expert on the power of cultivating meaningful friendships. In her former career as a user experience designer, she researched, designed, and advised on the user experience of countless flows in digital products serving millions of people at companies like Slack and Pandora. With the publication of her books, We Should Get Together and Connected from Afar, Kat turned her background in UX design towards combating the loneliness epidemic to help millions of people experience greater wellness and fulfillment through thriving platonic relationships.
My favorite line from Kat is: "Productivity is about what you don't do".
Books and events: weshouldgettogether.com
Work: katvellos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/KatVellos
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katvellos_author/
About Elisa Haggarty:
I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset so they can build high performing teams, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com
Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram.
Wednesday Jun 15, 2022
Wednesday Jun 15, 2022
For episode 31 on The School of Unlearning podcast, I sit down with podcast host and Mental Fitness Coach, Marc Champagne. Marc believes that we are just one questions away from a different day, and perhaps, a different life. We explore what drove him to use questions as a means to find clarity and what he has learned from his interviews of the world's greatest minds. Marc is the author of "Personal Socrates", a book where he examines the minds and core questions that drive the most successful and creative people of our times.
You can learn about Marc on Instagram @behindthehuman and follow his podcast, Behind The Human.
About Elisa Haggarty:
I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset so they can build high performing teams, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com
Wednesday Jun 08, 2022
Wednesday Jun 08, 2022
For episode 30, I sit down with Ksenia Brief, the founder of Breakfast Criminals and host of the Ksenia Brief Podcast. Ksenia and I really let loose on this podcast, we rumble with what it means to use social media responsibly and dive into what it means to follow our divine spark. Ksenia was born and raised most of her life in Moscow and found herself growing up in a world filled with red tape, judgement and consequently craved more connection and creativity. This podcast is like a warm cup of ceremonial cacao, rich and full of secret moments of goodness.
In this episode we cover:
- Ksenia’s childhood growing up in Russia and how her brief stint in Australia influenced her sense of self and ability to dream.
- "Face Control" was a decisive way to control who got into clubs and who didn't and how this impacted Ksenia's sense of self.
- How Ksenia has used and embraced food and meals as a way to express love and build community
- We wonder where music videos have gone and discuss the impact they had on our imagination and social connection as children
- Ksenia's evolution and softening into self worth and remembering who she is beyond awards, social media.
- Why none of us can skip the step of compassion if we wish to break habits that don't serve us
- The role of responsibility in sharing stories and in spiritual teachings
- The role of playing personas in our life to keep life and relationships novel and playful
"It's only hard when we try to be more than human. We didn't come here for easy, we came for evolution our soul was meant to experience." Ksenia Brief
About Ksenia:
Ksenia Brief is the founder of the award-nominated digital platform Breakfast Criminals and the host of the Ksenia Brief Podcast, focusing on expanded consciousness and entrepreneurship in the digital age. Named “35 Under 35 In Wellness'' by Wanderlust and “Top Social Media Coach” by Yahoo Finance, Ksenia is here to merge our inner tech (intuition) with outer tech (social media) for a world where you feel at home to share your medicine. She does it through storytelling, consulting and online programs.
She currently lives in a tiny home in the Catskills and can be found drinking ceremonial cacao at sunset.
Follow Ksenia's podcast, "The Ksenia Brief" podcast on Apple and Spotify. Her work can also be found on Instagram, @ksenia.brief
About Elisa Haggarty:
I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and from fear to love. To learn more about my work, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com
Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram.
Tuesday May 03, 2022
Tuesday May 03, 2022
Jordan’s Dann joins me for episode 29 on The School of Unlearning podcast. This episode is a deeply personal one, and Jordan leads the way by sharing how her childhood experiences have shaped the way she sees relationships and her work as a therapist. This is one of those feel good, wanna hug her through the screen and share with everyone I know podcasts - enjoy the conversation my friends.
In this episode we cover:
- How Jordan’s parents and early childhood influenced her view of relationships
- How moving houses so often helped influence Jordan’s resiliency and strength.
- Stumbling upon influential people and theater helped open up a sense of belonging and connection to the body
- The role of play in intimacy and connection
- How movement helped shape our sense of self and community
- How Jordan landed in therapy after years in music and theater.
- What somatic therapy and intelligence is and how to use it
- How presence and noticing influences the way Jordan works with patients and clients.
- How to embrace the sympathetic nervous system
- Why we need to annihilate our need for isolated self growth
- What 3 subjects Jordan would add to our school systems
- What Jordan is actively unlearning these days
Resources
If you liked this episode, check out the book Jordan references, “The Body Keeps the Score” by Bessel van der Kolk.
Jordan mentioned the poet, Marge Piercy, click here to read more.
About Jordan Dann
Jordan's work as a therapist is strongly informed by her clinical training in Gestalt therapy, Imago Relationship Therapy, and Somatic Experiencing. Jordan’s approach to working with clients is a strength-based-trauma-informed approach to support self-healing of the individual.
Jordan has a BFA (acting) an MFA (theater education) from Boston University and am a graduate of the Gestalt Associates for Psychotherapy. Jordan is a Nationally Certified and NYS Licensed Psychoanalyst in private practice. She works with individuals, couples, and conduct case supervision in New York City.
Jordan is an avid content creator and I highly encourage you go check out her Instagram account where she shares informative videos and stories that are buzzworth. She has also been featured in MindBodyGreen, NewsBreak, and Psychotherapy Networker.
To follow and work with Jordan, click here.
To learn more about Elisa and her work as a Conscious Leadership Coach, click here.
Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram.
Tuesday Apr 26, 2022
Tuesday Apr 26, 2022
In this episode for The School of Unlearning, I sit down with the author, founder and CEO of Askinosie chocolate.
I first came across Askinosie chocolate via Shawn's book, “Meaningful Work”. I read this book and fell in love with his spiritual and thorough approach to finding a vocation and meaning in our personal lives. I immediately searched for the nearest store that sold Askinosie chocolate and bought a bar. I’ve been hooked ever since.
This episode is deeply personal, a conversation between two people navigating grief, joy, loss, meaning and yes, chocolate. Shawn urges us to look to what breaks our heart in order to find meaning in our lives and in our work.
In this episode you'll hear:
- What core learnings Shawn had to endure at age that shaped his worldview on religion and grief.
- How important the space to talk about grief is and what happens when we don't have that space.
- How joy and sorrow are inseparable and how they amplify each other.
- The influence of loss and ambiguous loss in daily life
- How sitting with and moving through grief can build emotional confidence
- The origin of Askinosie Chocolate and the values behind it.
- What relationship driven chocolate means to Shawn
- How storytelling makes chocolate taste better :)
- The importance of space and alone time in finding meaning in life and in work
- "Begin with your sorrow" to find purpose and meaning in work.
- Why healing isn't a singular or a linear experience
- What Shawn is actively unlearning in the present moment
"Maybe if we combine our sorrow? Maybe that's joy?" Ross Gay
Check out Shawn’s TED Talk here.
To enjoy direct trade chocolate made by Askinosie chocolate, click here.
About Elisa:
I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and from fear to love.